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SON under SOX
This is a hot 600W HPS lamp under LPS light. The sodium vapour in the arc tube is absorbing so much of the sodium light it appears black.  The lamps shown is a Sylvania 600w SON/T and the illuminating lamp is a Philips 55W SOX. 
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SON under SOX

This is a hot 600W HPS lamp under LPS light. The sodium vapour in the arc tube is absorbing so much of the sodium light it appears black. The lamps shown is a Sylvania 600w SON/T and the illuminating lamp is a Philips 55W SOX.

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Lamp/Fixture Information
Manufacturer:Sylvania
Model Reference:SON/T
Lamp
Lamp Type:HP sodium (Growlux)
Burning Position:universal
Electrical
Wattage:600
File information
Filename:SONunderSOX.jpg
Album name:Tuopeek / High Pressure Sodium
Keywords:Lamps
Filesize:229 KiB
Date added:22 Nov 2025
Dimensions:2500 x 1368 pixels
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DateTime Original:2025:11:22 20:51:36
Exposure Time:1/250 sec
FNumber:f/8
File Source:Digital Still Camera
Flash:No Flash
Focal length:31 mm
ISO:140
Model:NIKON D3400
Software:Adobe Photoshop Elements 2.0
White Balance:0
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Ria   [Sun 23 Nov 2025 at 15:05]
Interesting. Seen SOX under SOX before, but never tried it with SON.
Tuopeek   [Sun 23 Nov 2025 at 18:34]
Thanks, Yes, I have often played with low pressure sodium lamps too and it fascinates me that low pressure sodium looks like a yellow fog under its own illumination. It is even more mind bending when you realise this is resonance, with the light causing absorption and re-emission just as a bell will start to ring quietly if subjected to the same sound as its natural frequency.

In the SON/T lamp the sodium is at a higher pressure and low-pressure double lines from the lamp fall totally within the broadened absorption band of the HPS lamp thus absorbing all the incident light and appearing black.

I’m sure Max can extend this explanation as I think absorption broadening ends up in a more complex explanation.
Max   [Thu 04 Dec 2025 at 22:30]
Nice experiment! The sodium vapor in HPS lamps has a very significant absorbance, which can even be clearly seen under white light with hot Philips SDWs, in which case the inner volume of the burner appears blueish-green! Since the sodium vapor temperature decreases quickly after the arc switch off, the optical process at play is similar to that happening in SOX lamps. Line and quasi-molecular broadening effects become dominant at high temperature, primarily during the HPS lamp's operation. In that case the net emission spectrum is the result of the broadened optical emission from the arc core filtered by the (less) broadened absorption profile of the cooler outer mantle. That's a really interesting process, well described in the classic book by de Groot and van Vliet (The high pressure sodium lamp, 1986).
Tuopeek   [Fri 05 Dec 2025 at 10:28]
I bought an Iwasaki NHT150SDX some time as it also demonstrates this behaviour under white light. I think these lamps run at a higher pressure so exhibit this behaviour well. I guess this is also the case with the Philips SDW. Quite amazing to witness.

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