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Tube with capillary electrodes

Since I still have difficulties making a side exhaust tube on my homemade discharge vessels, I decided to investigate some alternative methods and designs that would facilitate the tube filling, pumping, and seal off. One of them consists in using stainless steel capillaries instead of the usual dumet (or similar) wires for the glass-metal seals. However, stainless steel doesn't have suitable thermo-mechanical properties to form airtight seals with soda lime glass, so I wrapped each tube with a tight coil made with a very thin kanthal (Fe-Cr-Al alloy) wire, which acts as a strain relief. The trick worked and no cracks developed in the seals, and although it is certainly less clean that normal ones, it is surprisingly airtight and allowed me to do some plasma tests (see [url=https://trad-lighting.net/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=1137]there[/url]).

The picture above shows the tube after those experiments, with the electrode chambers heavily coated with iron oxide as a result of sputtering and chemical reactions with oxygen from the air fill. The right side shows more deposits because of the negative bias of that electrode as a result of a greater sodium release (see description in the post linked above and notice the white altered glass zone where the electrode emerges from the seal). I eventually sealed the tube off by cutting and pressing the (left) steel capillary connected to the gas pumping setup. Then I found that the steel-kanthal seals are not entirely satisfactory as the pressure in the tube rose very slowly. So, it's back to square one for me. That was still a nice experiment in my opinion.


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Tube with capillary electrodes


Since I still have difficulties making a side exhaust tube on my homemade discharge vessels, I decided to investigate some alternative methods and designs that would facilitate the tube filling, pumping, and seal off. One of them consists in using stainless steel capillaries instead of the usual dumet (or similar) wires for the glass-metal seals. However, stainless steel doesn't have suitable thermo-mechanical properties to form airtight seals with soda lime glass, so I wrapped each tube with a tight coil made with a very thin kanthal (Fe-Cr-Al alloy) wire, which acts as a strain relief. The trick worked and no cracks developed in the seals, and although it is certainly less clean that normal ones, it is surprisingly airtight and allowed me to do some plasma tests (see there).

The picture above shows the tube after those experiments, with the electrode chambers heavily coated with iron oxide as a result of sputtering and chemical reactions with oxygen from the air fill. The right side shows more deposits because of the negative bias of that electrode as a result of a greater sodium release (see description in the post linked above and notice the white altered glass zone where the electrode emerges from the seal). I eventually sealed the tube off by cutting and pressing the (left) steel capillary connected to the gas pumping setup. Then I found that the steel-kanthal seals are not entirely satisfactory as the pressure in the tube rose very slowly. So, it's back to square one for me. That was still a nice experiment in my opinion.

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Lamp/Fixture Information
Manufacturer:Me
Lamp
Lamp Type:Dry air low pressure
Filament/Radiator Type:Nonthermal discharge in low-pressure nitrogen and oxygen
Shape/Finish:Tubular clear
Physical/Production
Factory Location:Home
Fabrication Date:14 March, 2026
Application/Use:Testing and experimentation
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Tuopeek   [Tue 17 Mar 2026 at 18:26]
That's an interesting method of vacuuming and sealing. I would think the capillary being so small it would be difficult to achieve a good low vacuum through it. Although, I guess, that's not really a problem here. I would imagine a pressure seal may be problematic. Although I seen that as common practice in pressurised refrigeration systems but with numerous crimps. I've seen this type of seal on oven magnetrons but I think it may be a pressure and weld arrangement. I also think its done in copper. The result introducing the second metal in the seal as strain relief is a great result too.
Max   [Wed 18 Mar 2026 at 07:47]
I was also concerned that the capillary would have too great a flow resistance, so I kept the connection between the pumping system and the tube short (less than 10 cm). It worked fine in the end, although there was some significant "inertia" in the pressure level inside the tube. About the seal-off procedure, I think you're right that this could be improved. I pressed a part of the tube, I cut it, and then I folded its extremity and I pressed it some more, but I cannot rule out some leakage there still... maybe that was the main cause for the slow but steady rise in pressure I observed in the sealed tube (I degassed it thoroughly while on the pumping setup, so gas cannot come from the glass walls). Even if I solve that point with a proper tip-off method, fact remains that the glass-metal seals are not really clean, and they really need to be properly vacuum-tight. So, that rules out this design then... unless I find the right method or/and material to make proper seals between a capillary and glass.

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