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Home made neon
These two tubes are running in series on an electronic neon power supply. The bright larger tube is neon, and is saturating the picture a bit. Not sure what's in the second one now. I think it was neon with some air in it. Neon only appears red when it quite pure. The pressure is also wrong in the smaller tube as the electrodes are sputtering, so it will eventually give up. I had intended to add a helium one but I broke it when hooking it up. Time to make some more of these I think. They are easily broken when playing around with them.  
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Home made neon

These two tubes are running in series on an electronic neon power supply. The bright larger tube is neon, and is saturating the picture a bit. Not sure what's in the second one now. I think it was neon with some air in it. Neon only appears red when it quite pure. The pressure is also wrong in the smaller tube as the electrodes are sputtering, so it will eventually give up. I had intended to add a helium one but I broke it when hooking it up. Time to make some more of these I think. They are easily broken when playing around with them.

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Manufacturer:self
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Filename:neon.jpg
Album name:Tuopeek / Misc
Keywords:Miscellaneous
Filesize:599 KiB
Date added:Dec 24, 2024
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DateTime Original:2024:05:04 19:32:16
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Focal length:27 mm
ISO:800
Model:NIKON D3400
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Ria   [Dec 25, 2024 at 04:09 PM]
Very nice, would love to be able to do something like this, but I don't have the space or the knowledge..! Neon Sign
Tuopeek   [Dec 25, 2024 at 08:16 PM]
Thanks, I would like a better set-up with a dedicated space for this stuff myself.
Max   [Dec 31, 2024 at 09:23 AM]
Really neat! Have you seen a gradual color change in the right tube over time? If air is/was a component of its gas fill, then the discharge composition and pressure would change as oxygen and then nitrogen are lost via physi- and chemisorption at the lamp's wall and electrodes. These mechanisms are quite effective at removing air, including its argon component, at low background pressure (1 mbar and less). I managed to get a very high vacuum in (sealed) discharge tubes to the point of extinguishing the plasma ang getting an electroluminescent excitation of the glass tube only with just a rotary vane pump and a 20 kV 30 mA transformer... that's actually showing the working principle of ionization pumps.
Tuopeek   [Dec 31, 2024 at 12:17 PM]
Thanks Max, yes, I have quite often seen this in tubes I have made, but the results unfortunately improve the vacuum until the neon sign transformer can't strike the tube. I have even produced some tubes that start to produce x-rays when driven with higher voltage power supplies. I am obviously sealing off at too low a pressure. The tube did improve, producing the neon discharge, with a few hours of run time. If I notice any sputtering around the electrodes during the burn in then it generally means the pressure is dropping too much and the voltage is too high. This seems to be an escalating issue as the sputtering also appears to be a good gas absorber, and less selective in reactive terms. My vacuum manifold arrangement is a bit leaky so I over compensate when pumping down, back filling and sealing off.

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